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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383256

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Hi Zup,
When you've got time, do you think you could reduce the landing bounce amplitude a little.
No matter which way I try, I always stand the plane on its tail, making it 50/50 crash or landing.

Pretty sure others have the same problem, asked advice in a previous post and no one could offer a solution.
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383257

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Not much I can do. The physics engine is written by Unity and I have no access to it. I've tried for years to adjust it but when I stop the bounce, the airplane crashes all the time so I had to leave it like it is. Who knows, some day maybe Unity fixes it.
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383264

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Glad you are aware of it, it's not just me then.
As I remember, way back, landing was easier, somethings changed.
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Hmm...
Maybe if you reduced the minimum speed, we could land more tail down?  It feels like it's nose diving even at stall speed.
Or introduce a ground effect lift, increase the lift to speed ratio based on ground proximity?

 
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383275

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On which plane do you play Gannet ? With what material ?
Because I land very well with the Camel, a very realistic little bounce !
 
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383276

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Interesting, I use the top level WW1 planes, playing on a PC with a joystick.
Oh, the bounce is realistic alright, just toooo much of it.
How do you do it? I've tried every speed and angle I can think of.
Maybe gravity is weaker in the South Pacific???
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383278

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Yes French beef is heavier than New Zealand mutton, that's a fact :)
The problem may be with your joystick... I only play with the keyboard keys ;)

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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383279

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I'll try keys 
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383281

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Nope not the Joystick.
Just done some more experiments, I think its technique.
Goes better if I slow speed fly it into the ground, rather than cutting throttle early and gliding. 
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383282

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Mine is still able to no bounce smooth land if I really concentrate on it. I get incredible bounces mostly lol
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383287

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wow!! you fellas has a vivid imagination on how to bounce around in a plane
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 8 months ago #383289

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Yes by luck I have managed to get the variables right for one nice landing, So it is possible, but real tricky to get right.
It's quite hard to quickly switch from the frenzy of a dogfight to boring careful landing.
I guess WW1 planes were temperamental landing.  
As always Zup must be trying to balance realism against keeping the game exciting.
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I think tabulating the exact parameters need for minimum bounce landing in each aircraft type would be a very useful addition to "Juan Marni's HUGE tutorial", (but it would take someone time to research.)
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 7 months ago #383298

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I'll see what can I do :P.
No necesitas el mejor avión para ser el mejor piloto.



La esperanza es lo último que se pierde. Seguimos a la espera...
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 7 months ago #383349

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I also play on pc with joystick and never had this problem. It's like in real life, you have to take the speed out of your plane and round it up, ie pull the nose up just before landing while flying out of it all the speed. With too much speed you can never land a plane nicely, then you will always collide. In real terms, this is called flying an airplane against the ground. Before you land you have to reduce the speed and then fly out of your plane, round it up nicely and then you can put it on a handkerchief.

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Landing Bounce. 2 years 7 months ago #383350

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Wrong way.  :-)

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Landing Bounce. 2 years 7 months ago #383353

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good way  :-)

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Landing Bounce. 2 years 7 months ago #383355

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Thanks 
Yes my mistake was I was completely cutting the engine for the approach, assuming the glide angle would be right, but actually it's too nose down. You have to fly a little faster, stall it, and "hope" the plane drops to ground before the nose drops
It's a delicate balance, but I'm getting better. 
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Landing Bounce. 2 years 7 months ago #383360

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I have set plane down using.the third person view, if that's what it is called..Also anybody ever use third person view when attacking. If so , what technique goes along with this style?
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