Tank spawnkillers are a pest, because you are taken out the instant you appear at the start of the runway. They are common in bomb-the-carrier games, but also sometimes in bomb-the-hangar games, where they may leave one hangar intact to keep the game going. They're worst of all in "dogfight", where they help no one but themselves, and win easy points.


(The one in this particular screenshot was just a zombie and did no harm any longer. I tried to shoot him, was warned by other players that he was "immune", and then landed behind him to take a closer look. He was frozen, and obviously no longer "there")

This one is from a "dogfight" game some hours ago.

I was shot by a tank the second I spawned, but I stayed put for a while and looked around. He shot me again and blew me completely off the tarmac so that I almost landed on top of him. (It looks as if he's on fire, but the flames are from my plane.)

Lying there I probably blocked his line of sight, so he drove around the brick building to find a new position. I took the opportunity to get up in the air, and started to fly slowly around the buildings to get him, but in that way I became an easy target, and someone else shot me down. Then I was immediately spawnkilled again.

Next time I spawned on a carrier and started flying back to bomb the tank, but before I had reached the airfield he had obtained his 15 victories, and the game ended.

I can't blame "silveraces", which was his name, - he just used the opportunities the game gave him, but perhaps we can make it less of a problem if both sides agree not to tolerate tank spawnkilling.

We can use the chat system at the start of a game to agree on a common policy.

Yeah, I usually just kick the tank spawn killers. Especially if it's in a game of Dogfight.

One way might be to agree on not shooting at tank hunters in a Dogfight game. One could say so at the start of the game, and I believe most players would understand.

Yeah -- that'd work. But there will always be someone who won't honor the pact and will shoot that person down.

I like tank spawn killing..u get alot of points and kills and win games

Hahahah, yeah. But it tends to make everyone mad mate.

Do. What I do....Suicide HEHEHEHEHEH

Heheheh.

lol suicide bombing. always effective.

CalvinIsAwesome wrote: lol suicide bombing. always effective.

Explain this a little better. Do I have to release the bomb right before the impact? (This starts to sound a little like an al-Q@eða training camp :unsure: ).


If I crash with a tank while shooting at it I usually don't get a message like "braveheart destroyed by Veidar" on the screen. Would it be different if I carried a bomb when crashing with him?

Nope. U gotta drop it. Otherwise nothing happens.

Once, I bombed a tank inside the south base hangar.

I came in at an angle where I could see a little bit of the tank(not enough too shoot it though) and I released the bomb while quickly gaining altittude It was really cool.......it was Abu abed. Knowing him, he left, then joined, then got into a tank again. Then I killed him again, then he left for good.

lol bit of an attitude on him. good player tho. thats one of my fav ways to kill the tanks. i hate the players that hide in the normal hangers, not the brick ones. they destroy the other side of hangers, hide in one of the others, and just wait to be bombed, taking 3 hangers with him, which gets the bomber banned for being a traitor.

lol, yeah! I hide in the brick building and spawn kill sometimes. I don't usually feel like being a tank in dogfight mode.

If its capture the carrier mode, and my team is losing......I will spawn kill them. I try not too kill lieutenants though

Tank spawnkilling is becoming more common, and it is not fun for anyone else than the spawnkiller and perhaps his team.

It does in fact destroy the game.

Since it prevents a lot of players from continuing the game, it stops the game as such.

It blocks one team and it has nothing to do with "dogfighting"-

If something isn't done about it, and it continues to increase the way it has done, I believe many players eventually will tire of this game.

I dont think anyone thats dedicated will leave cuz of it, but its extremely annoying. Ive posted ways to get out of a spawkill situation. Its easy enough.

I agree the ways you describe would work in many situations, but...

The spawnkiller I was up against today shot ten others in quick succession in addition to shooting me four times.

It was a bomb-airfield game, so I returned to the same runway every time, and was shot the second I appeared.

It took him only about three seconds to reload, and it took much longer than that for me to even get rolling with a bomb attached to my belly.

I don't think even you would have been able to get out of that. The only way would be to quit and reenter and hope to respawn on the opposite team.

The only good thing about it was that it also led to some team cooperation: I called for someone to try and take out the spawnkiller while I was lying there. I was informed someone would be coming, but since there were too many strong players on the opposite team, it didn't happen.

Hmmm strange. Im no expert at getting away, i just know that one manuver. U should have time, as tank reload time shouldnt vary. Of course, theres lots of glitches, this could be one, or it could simply be lots of lag on one or both ends.

It could be that I was slowed down by some kind of lag. He killed the same planes over and over again, but I also saw some that escaped.

Yeah, if theres, lag, lol, your In trouble.

Historygeek13 wrote: I don't usually feel like being a tank in dogfight mode.

I believe that players turn into tanks in dogfight mode most of all because they see it as an opportunity to practise using the controls,. In dogfights all planes are busy shooting at one another, and don't bother with the tanks because they're usually no threat to the airplanes.

In dogfight games I've shot tanks that were heading at full speed towards the airfields. There is little reason to go there if you don't intend to spawnkill.

Lol yes there is fun to spawn kill its part of eveygame ger used to it

Veidar, if the tank is in the hanger immediately go full throttle and right turn. If your lagging it might not work. You should be able to takeoff right of the building. It works both ways if tank is outside but if he's loaded your done. This makes him aim left or right. Doesn't work on Green that guy is crazy good in tank.

You think he is good I am I snipe air ports half way across map in tank lol

That's awesome Pownage! I have only been able to shoot a shell to base from about a third of the map away!

pownage wrote: You think he is good I am I snipe air ports half way across map in tank lol

Ballistics, which we were talking about in another thread, would have had a real role in long range shooting like that. Mortar fire is directed up in the air to make the shells drop down on the enemy from above.

Lobbing grenades over a hill, while being protected from direct fire oneself, has been an important part of warfare, especially before the age of the aeroplanes.

It requires cooperation too, because you need an observer who can correct your aim with feedback like: "a little more up", "hundred yards more to the left" etc.

Wouldn't that be fun to do with tanks?

pownage wrote: Lol yes there is fun to spawn kill its part of eveygame ger used to it

You're right. It's fun for the spawnkillers!

And after all it is only a game, and one should never make the mistake of taking it too seriously.

Still, - if it would improve the game for a majority to prevent tank spawnkilling, it is worth the while looking into it.

veidar2 wrote:

Historygeek13 wrote: I don't usually feel like being a tank in dogfight mode.

I believe that players turn into tanks in dogfight mode most of all because they see it as an opportunity to practise using the controls,. In dogfights all planes are busy shooting at one another, and don't bother with the tanks because they're usually no threat to the airplanes.

In dogfight games I've shot tanks that were heading at full speed towards the airfields. There is little reason to go there if you don't intend to spawnkill.

Lol, one time I was a threat too planes.

I was shooting guys out of the air a lot in that game

I also was going too the souh base, and on my way,

I encountered several tanks. I killed almost all of them,

but, the tank didn't reload in time too get the last one