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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 1 week ago #386054

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I may be wrong but i kinda thought that if there was a way for the system to put squadmates together in the new team dogfight everyone would be satisfied... you still have some of the same issues i guess in a way but for now to see how it goes but is there a way to make the team dogfight mission automaticaly put squad mates together if it recognizes 2 or more squadmembers in the list of online players... I dont think it neccessarily has to be squad vs. squad as long as when you enter the room your put with members of your squad even if your against players who are not in a squad or the opposite team may have one or two players of random squads but they werent matched with squad mates because theres only one of them. Or atleast use the team dogfight mission for now, it might help you see where the problems are, the advantages and disadvanteges and how players react to help you as you create a squad vs squad....

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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 1 week ago #386057

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The problem is that it cannot be done in the current system, as I explained. I need to remove 1) People to hit play and begin playing. It requires to have a lobby and a wait time. 2) I cannot allow people to select sides.

As I explained, if I leave it with the current system, I cannot put squadmates together because someone will always find a way to use it to their advantage. Right now, imagine the situation that you plan with your squadmate to win a game and destroy someone else:
1) You hit play and select the team you want.
2) Other people join, some on your team some in the others.
3) Your squadmate joins, he can pick a side. At this point he can easily switch sides or pick a side using his subscription. This simple fact creates a huge problem because he can unbalance the teams before joining or during the game.
Imagine now, that instead of just 1 squadmate, you are 3. You can basically win any game easily if you have a high enough rank and it will be a war of who can switch or pick sides faster.

Therefore, the only way to make squad wars work is by disabling the option to choose teams and adding a lobby. That's the reason why so many games got a waiting lobby for the game.
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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 1 week ago #386072

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Oh ok zup, I was reading what your saying I just want understanding it but I see what your saying now........I was thinking you could disable the option to choose for each mission separately but if you do that it will have to be for entire system and you'd have to enter a lobby for every mission.....

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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 1 week ago #386076

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What about instead of a lobby, allow earlybirds to start flying but in a restricted airspace around their territory. Maybe just allow them to gain height and chat.
Then when the game is filled, enable guns and bombs, fuel count down etc, and flash up "Game on" message.
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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 1 week ago #386079

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The problem is not to enable or not to enable people to use their guns. The problem is that the server will need to switch every player to different sides depending on who is joining the room. You cannot do that while you are flying in the game... one minute you are on an albatros and then you are in a camel midair? It's just not possible.

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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 1 week ago #386083

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The problem is not to enable or not to enable people to use their guns. The problem is that the server will need to switch every player to different sides depending on who is joining the room. You cannot do that while you are flying in the game... one minute you are on an albatros and then you are in a camel midair? It's just not possible.  

Would work if it was a booked room  for squad war? Booked for only two squads to war each other, then the sides would be set for that game, and the software doesn't need to balance the game, up to the squad to get their "best" team in, their problem, they loose bragging rights if their team is weak.



 
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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 5 days ago #386108

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Ok, the update is already out and Squad Wars is finally released!
wohoooo, it only took me 5 years lol

First, keep in mind that this works correctly only when everybody has the latest update. I hope that is the case before Tuesday (windows store and amazon are delaying the most these days).

So, how does it work?
1) You load the game, hit "play".
2) If there is an ongoing game that has been running for less than 5 minutes and with available space for you (and your rank), you will automatically join them.
3) If no game matches step 2, then you are placed into a squad wars lobby.
The Squad Wars lobby: It has a maximum waiting time of 1 minute. This will be the case if you are the first person that joins the lobby.
- The system will check every few seconds the lobby. If enough players are already in the lobby to begin a game, it will fast forward the 1-minute wait to only a few seconds and begin the game. This way, you don't have 10 people waiting there for a minute when you could already be playing.
- When a game is ready to begin, the system will automatically place all your squad mates together on the same side. But remember, you cannot be more than 4 on the same side. Those left out, will be placed on the next game.
- It can happen that 2 squads are on the same side. If only 2 players of each squad join, they may be 2 and 2 (total 4) on the same side playing together against the other side.
- If you don't belong to a squad (poor soul!), the system will assign you randomly to an empty spot. But keep in mind that it gives priority to squad members. This means that if 8 people are in a squad and you are the 9th player, you will be placed alone waiting for others to join you. In short, it is better if you belong to a squad.

Squad vs Squad ranking:
Still in development. I will activate the old ranking page but I want to create one in the game so you don't have to leave the game to see the squad ranking. It should be ready for the next update.



 
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Enabling Squad Wars 2 months 2 days ago #386129

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The squadron ranking page is back online. I'm working on a much better page with weekly goals, stay tuned!
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